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what about nancy pelosi, harry reid, mitch mcconnell? in 2011 it was basically boehner and obama, this time there might be a few more lawmakers who want in on this deal. jenna: the president's going to be sitting down with leaders later on this week. let's talk about style versus substance, something we talked about a lot with the election. i was reading comments from the ceo of at&t today, also the senior economist from bank of america who say, listen, if they'd reach an agreement, great. but if between now and then and the disagreements look really big and bad, that's going to damage this economy because it just shatters any consumer confidence going into the holiday season. >> yes. jenna: so, ultimately, they could find a solution, but damage will already be done. what dueck about that, bob? what do you think about the style to all this as well? >> that's why -- and i agree with that, they're going to need a deal by mid december because it's going to shatter consumer confidence, and the stock market's going to play a big role here. we
what about nancy pelosi, harry reid, mitch mcconnell? in 2011 it was basically boehner and obama, this time there might be a few more lawmakers who want in on this deal. jenna: the president's going to be sitting down with leaders later on this week. let's talk about style versus substance, something we talked about a lot with the election. i was reading comments from the ceo of at&t today, also the senior economist from bank of america who say, listen, if they'd reach an agreement, great....
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john boehner, harry reid, mitch mcconnell, the same group last year. since that meeting, republicans have been discussing revenue increases. democrats want tax rate increases. republicans say there are other ways to get there like curbing tax deductions. >> this whole notion of capital gains and dividend taxes is really an explicit to pension funds and the ability of moms and pops that are out there to have income producing small capital investments. rich: the president's budget increases the top tax rate from 15 to 20%. meeting friday at the white house. back to you. lori: we know you will be there, rich. thank you. melissa: the president calling on congressional leaders to work together. congress has a voter mandate not to raise taxes. joining us now is steve moore from the "wall street journal." thank you for hopping on the phone to talk to us. i am really interested in the interview that you did. he said over the weekend "let me put it very clearly, i am not willing to turn off taxes for the sequester." >> one of the things that came through in my
john boehner, harry reid, mitch mcconnell, the same group last year. since that meeting, republicans have been discussing revenue increases. democrats want tax rate increases. republicans say there are other ways to get there like curbing tax deductions. >> this whole notion of capital gains and dividend taxes is really an explicit to pension funds and the ability of moms and pops that are out there to have income producing small capital investments. rich: the president's budget increases...
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it looks to me like mitch mcconnell has wanted to be majority leader since the senate race, ever since then he wanted to be majority leader. now he may never be. things do not look that much better for the republicans two years from now than they do now. he will also face a primary in two years. >> he may or may not. back in 2010 there was a contested primary in kentucky. that caused a bit of a problem for him. people were upset with him. but he has done a lot of work to hug rand paul so close to him and he let him do about whatever he wants to do on the senate floor. when he says i want to go to the floor and cause a big stink about something, mitch mcconnell says go right ahead. he is such a talented politician. he is so smart. in my opinion i think he has done everything he can do to prevent someone -- even if someone wanted to challenge him from the right he has done as much as he can do to keep them at bay. >> of course the other aspect of leadership transition in congress will be changes on the committees. your handy guy will offer lots of details. we should devote some of it to
it looks to me like mitch mcconnell has wanted to be majority leader since the senate race, ever since then he wanted to be majority leader. now he may never be. things do not look that much better for the republicans two years from now than they do now. he will also face a primary in two years. >> he may or may not. back in 2010 there was a contested primary in kentucky. that caused a bit of a problem for him. people were upset with him. but he has done a lot of work to hug rand paul so...
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. >> it came out of mitch mcconnell's office. harry reid went along with it. mcconnell voted for it. john mccain who is a big critic of the defense part of the sequester, it was he voted for it. paul ryan voted for it. so you know, i'm not saying democrats are blameless here or don't deserve some of the responsibility but the idea that republicans are washing their hands and saying this is a white house ploy is completely wrong. >> bill: i was at the white house friday when president obama came into the east room and made a very short speech. very clear about what his plan is and what he wanted. here's the president with one challenge to members of congress. >> obama: i'm open to compromise. i'm open to new ideas. i'm committed to solving our fiscal challenges. but i refuse to accept any approach that isn't balanced. >> bill: what does he mean by that? >> balanced. he's saying first of all it's not just spending cuts. it has to be revenues as well. second, he's rejecting the john boehner approach which is boehner saying i'll agree to revenues as long as they c
. >> it came out of mitch mcconnell's office. harry reid went along with it. mcconnell voted for it. john mccain who is a big critic of the defense part of the sequester, it was he voted for it. paul ryan voted for it. so you know, i'm not saying democrats are blameless here or don't deserve some of the responsibility but the idea that republicans are washing their hands and saying this is a white house ploy is completely wrong. >> bill: i was at the white house friday when...
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mcconnell making the same thing abundantly clear we are right back where we started. >> right back where we started. the american people voted on tuesday night to continue the dysfunction that we have had for the last two years. the president seems to act like he has been given a mandate, somehow he has been given this great victory. lou: important he dinot use that word. >> thankfully, but here is the important thing, and i agree with my colleagues and friends here. there is not a coequal branch of government. the congress has controlled by the house of representatives, republicans, and senate the democrats. mr. obama, even though he thinks as these guys have already said, that he will press for his tax increase on the rich, it's not going to happen. the house was reelected, but a smaller government, keeping government spending in check, and, of course, not raising taxes. if he thinks that house republicans we will roll over, i think he's in for reawakening. lou: one for the country came today when we were stunned by the announcement of david patraeus resignation as cia director. and th
mcconnell making the same thing abundantly clear we are right back where we started. >> right back where we started. the american people voted on tuesday night to continue the dysfunction that we have had for the last two years. the president seems to act like he has been given a mandate, somehow he has been given this great victory. lou: important he dinot use that word. >> thankfully, but here is the important thing, and i agree with my colleagues and friends here. there is not a...
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the republicans remember when mitch mcconnell said make sure he is a one-term president. the president will be thinking about his legacy wanting to get things done. they lost voters by 56 percent. all that suggests to me is the president says something teaching the fiscal cliff i am willing to have 3-1 spending reductions as well as tax increases and pro growth tax reform package you can get something done there. >> president's second term notoriously difficult and the fact is the president won real election he didn't give as much of an agenda for his second term during the campaign. what do you expect from him that he has to worry ever again about reelection? >> go back to 2010 where they had the great mid term election. republicans think compromise is the answer for their political future. i would say think about what president obama did that ended up helping him win a huge reelection. he decided not to compromise he decided to double down on liberal i am. he marketed it in a new way he found inflexion points with women voters. he did it masterfully with jim macina and
the republicans remember when mitch mcconnell said make sure he is a one-term president. the president will be thinking about his legacy wanting to get things done. they lost voters by 56 percent. all that suggests to me is the president says something teaching the fiscal cliff i am willing to have 3-1 spending reductions as well as tax increases and pro growth tax reform package you can get something done there. >> president's second term notoriously difficult and the fact is the...
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mitch mcconnell, not minority leader, still sounds much like he sounded when obama was first elected. he doesn't sound as if he's ready to compromise. and business leaders are now saying we're ready to fix the debt problem. i want business leaders to start a campaign that says i'm ready for the president to raise my taxes. that's where they could have some real influence with the republican party i think. so when business leaders get ready to say that, i think compromise a fair and balanced compromise could be close. >> well, we didn't want business leaders to have that campaign in quiet rooms. congresswoman, cynthia, thank you so much for your time tonight. coming up, inside the petraeus investigation. we're learning much more about the two women at the center of it. nbc's national investigative correspondent meichael isikoff joins us. plus karl rove under fire from the billionaire boys club. and a new video showing president obama behind the scenes with cam been staffers. you will want to see what happens in this one. you're watching politics nation on msnbc. well, if it isn't mr. m
mitch mcconnell, not minority leader, still sounds much like he sounded when obama was first elected. he doesn't sound as if he's ready to compromise. and business leaders are now saying we're ready to fix the debt problem. i want business leaders to start a campaign that says i'm ready for the president to raise my taxes. that's where they could have some real influence with the republican party i think. so when business leaders get ready to say that, i think compromise a fair and balanced...
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mitch mcconnell actually saying he was basically open to it. i'm not taking this as wow, the republicans have reinvented themselves and this is a nuj republican party and a huge change for the future. this is an aaffirmation about something about how the system is supposed to work. this is why i thought was most important in this election was what were the tactics of the republican party the last four years. their opposition party tactics of total obstruction to politically destroying the president of the other party. were those tactics validated. if they won power back by doing that, it will normally behavior by the opposition party our system is not billed for. the behavior of the republican for the last four years works in a british system where the only function of the opposition party is to oppose and obstruct any way they can. they just oppose. here the opposition party has a real meaningful role. they have to govern in some way. what i see from republicans are signs that they are going to return at least in the near term to being an actu
mitch mcconnell actually saying he was basically open to it. i'm not taking this as wow, the republicans have reinvented themselves and this is a nuj republican party and a huge change for the future. this is an aaffirmation about something about how the system is supposed to work. this is why i thought was most important in this election was what were the tactics of the republican party the last four years. their opposition party tactics of total obstruction to politically destroying the...
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the president has more flexibility to stand up to his base on things liken entitlement reform and mitch mcconnell said the priority was that he be a one term president and that is off the table and the president will think of his legacy, getting things done and not just staking out positions and the republicans need to keep in mind they lost voters. and, the president way be willing to have spending reductions versus tax increases and a pro-growth tax reform package, you can get something done there. >> chris: laura, presidents' second terms are notoriously difficult and, the president won reelection but didn't give as much of an agenda for a second term during the campaign, what do you expect from him? now that he no longer has to worry, ever again, about re-election. >> well, i think, it is instruct tiff to go back to 2010 when the republicans had the great midterm election and for republicans thinking compromise is the answer for their political future i would say, think about what president obama did. actually ended up helping him win a huge re-election victory. he decided not to mo
the president has more flexibility to stand up to his base on things liken entitlement reform and mitch mcconnell said the priority was that he be a one term president and that is off the table and the president will think of his legacy, getting things done and not just staking out positions and the republicans need to keep in mind they lost voters. and, the president way be willing to have spending reductions versus tax increases and a pro-growth tax reform package, you can get something done...
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again, i think the problem here for the republicans is the spokespersons of the party, whether mitch mcconnell or john boehner and whoever it might be at the national level, i'm not sure who else that could be at this point, they have to understand that everybody listens now. we live in a different media age. and when you talk in very extreme voices or out-of-touch voices, you alienate voters and you don't win them back when it comes election day. >> great to see both of you. thank you. >>> also making news this morning, investigators are trying to figure out the cause of that massive explosion in indianapolis that killed two people and damaged at least 50 homes. it happened saturday night and it was heard several miles away. some residents thought it was an earthquake. officials say 31 homes may have to be demolished. >>> if you can believe it, it's been two weeks since hurricane sandy hit the northeast and almost 90,000 customers are still without power in parts of new york, new jersey, connecticut and west virginia. new york governor andrew cuomo says he'll ask the federal governm
again, i think the problem here for the republicans is the spokespersons of the party, whether mitch mcconnell or john boehner and whoever it might be at the national level, i'm not sure who else that could be at this point, they have to understand that everybody listens now. we live in a different media age. and when you talk in very extreme voices or out-of-touch voices, you alienate voters and you don't win them back when it comes election day. >> great to see both of you. thank you....
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in fact, after election day the president, speaker boehner, senate ma minority leader mitch mcconnell all talking about the facecle life, what they were going to do, not going to do, what they wanted to negotiate, not negotiate, but on friday, as news exploded out from the cia thanks to our own andrea mitchell that the president accepted the resignation of the cia director, general david petraeus, all of that -- you have to add that plus all the things you talked about, fiscal cliff, to what the president has to deal with. as you said, no honeymoon, indeed. >> and added to what jonathan just said, julian, there are some concerns over this that this is just the tip of the iceberg. i want to play you something senator feinstein said to andrea mitchell this afternoon. >> this thing came so fast and hard. since then it's been like peeling an onion. every day another peel comes off and you see a whole new dimension to this. so my concern has actually escalated over the last few days. >> it's clear she's suggesting this is going well beyond the realm of a personal matter. how far could we r
in fact, after election day the president, speaker boehner, senate ma minority leader mitch mcconnell all talking about the facecle life, what they were going to do, not going to do, what they wanted to negotiate, not negotiate, but on friday, as news exploded out from the cia thanks to our own andrea mitchell that the president accepted the resignation of the cia director, general david petraeus, all of that -- you have to add that plus all the things you talked about, fiscal cliff, to what...
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>> and nathan, mitch mcconnell's political issues that are in 2014, both a little concerned about a primary, got to be concerned about a real challenge in a general election, it almost -- won't mcconnell secretly want the president to work around him? he doesn't want to have to be a guy that cuts a deal in either direction? >> if you talk about tax rate increases -- it's still toxic within the republican party. it will take compromise on both sides. >> jim manley said the president has to make it public that he's willing to go over the cliff. if republicans don't believe he's willing to do it, he's handing them a piece of leverage. >> i don't know if he needs to go that far. i think he needs to show some backbone and have more skin in the game is what i would say on this. and i think the republicans are also going to be looking at the fact that in two years, they have to answer to the electorate that said to them, figure it out. >> perhaps. the electorate might look differenty. shameless plugs? >> georgetown, hoyas' season opener. great game. >> my dad came here today. >> mr. gonzales. >> t
>> and nathan, mitch mcconnell's political issues that are in 2014, both a little concerned about a primary, got to be concerned about a real challenge in a general election, it almost -- won't mcconnell secretly want the president to work around him? he doesn't want to have to be a guy that cuts a deal in either direction? >> if you talk about tax rate increases -- it's still toxic within the republican party. it will take compromise on both sides. >> jim manley said the...
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the question is, this is -- i think a lot of it is on john boehner and mitch mcconnell. can they say to the base of the party, we need to make this deal. it is good for us politically. it is good for the country policy wise, and we need to move on, or do the grovers of the world win out? >> david, thank you very much. chris cillizza. coming up, more fallout from the david petraeus situation. we'll talking to david ignatius. hey sis, it's so great to see you. you, too! oh, cloudy glasses. you didn't have to come over! actually, honey, i think i did... oh? you did? whoa, ladies, easy. hi. cascade kitchen counselor. we can help avoid this with cascade complete pacs. over time, the other premium pac can leave cloudy, hard water deposits, but cascade complete pacs help leave glasses sparkling. shiny! too bad it doesn't work on windows. okay, i'm outta here. more dishwasher brands in north america recommend cascade. in north america is bigger than we think ... sometimelike the flu.fer from with aches, fever and chills- the flu's a really big deal. so why treat it like it's a l
the question is, this is -- i think a lot of it is on john boehner and mitch mcconnell. can they say to the base of the party, we need to make this deal. it is good for us politically. it is good for the country policy wise, and we need to move on, or do the grovers of the world win out? >> david, thank you very much. chris cillizza. coming up, more fallout from the david petraeus situation. we'll talking to david ignatius. hey sis, it's so great to see you. you, too! oh, cloudy glasses....
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senate majority leader harry reid and senator minority leader mitch mcconnell and nancy pelosi not surprising here. what's the expectation? >> well, you know, we'll see. publicly, suzanne, there has been a much more consillatory tone that we've seen since the election, whether it's from the president or the house speaker john boehner, but i can tell you in talking to sources privately on both sides of the aisle, they admit that it's all about positioning and posturing to make sure at the end of the day if we do go off the fiscal cliff that they're not blamed for it. they're the ones who looked reasonable, not unreasonable, and they're preparing for the other side to blame them for the opposite, if that makes sense. that's a lot of what you are saying in public. the reality is that neither side has a really clear machine date or clear vote and no one wants to look at the end of the day like they never gave compromise a chance. listen to republican bob corker, though, because there does seem to be a little bit of a crack on the republican side on whether or not it's okay to raise some taxes. >>
senate majority leader harry reid and senator minority leader mitch mcconnell and nancy pelosi not surprising here. what's the expectation? >> well, you know, we'll see. publicly, suzanne, there has been a much more consillatory tone that we've seen since the election, whether it's from the president or the house speaker john boehner, but i can tell you in talking to sources privately on both sides of the aisle, they admit that it's all about positioning and posturing to make sure at the...
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does he sit down in a room and honestly openly negotiate with speaker boehner, mitch mcconnell, or does he come in, give a set of demands and go hold a press conference? they can, i believe, hammer out -- >> same can the said on the other side, by the way. >> but if the president is willing to do it, the republicans have no choice. i mean, you can't turn down a president who just won re-election if he's sincere and willing to negotiate. >> going to take some bold initiatives which is my segue into your book, okay, because you've written this book about george washington and his bold moves to break the stalemate of the revolutionary war. so much has been written about george washington. what do you want readers to take away from this book that's new? >> well, i think particularly this morning is the launch of an american legacy book tour that calista and i are doing because she has two new children's books out for american history. the first thing is to say to people we have a long history of overcoming adversity. george washington is probably the greatest example of that, and in "victor
does he sit down in a room and honestly openly negotiate with speaker boehner, mitch mcconnell, or does he come in, give a set of demands and go hold a press conference? they can, i believe, hammer out -- >> same can the said on the other side, by the way. >> but if the president is willing to do it, the republicans have no choice. i mean, you can't turn down a president who just won re-election if he's sincere and willing to negotiate. >> going to take some bold initiatives...
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jon kyl is retiring and cornyn wants to move up, number two under mitch mcconnell. this is his second run at nrsc -- they picked up six seats in 2010 and here he was expected to deliver the majority at the end of the cycle, but things turned against them. but i don't think republicans are expecting the kind of rout they saw on tuesday. talking about republicans soul- searching and whatnot, and this is part of it. we talked to one senator yesterday who said we are going to be talking about a lot of different things and how to move forward, and leadership races are a part of that. >> you can't beat somebody with nobody. is there a name? >> john thune, the current conference secretary told us four months that he may make a run for whip. he may stay in the current spot or make a run for nrsc chairman. i suspect you will decide to stick where he is right now. certainly we were trying to get those guys on the phone yesterday and they were not taking our calls. it could be there is some decision making going on. but i think at the end of the
jon kyl is retiring and cornyn wants to move up, number two under mitch mcconnell. this is his second run at nrsc -- they picked up six seats in 2010 and here he was expected to deliver the majority at the end of the cycle, but things turned against them. but i don't think republicans are expecting the kind of rout they saw on tuesday. talking about republicans soul- searching and whatnot, and this is part of it. we talked to one senator yesterday who said we are going to be talking about a lot...